Monthly Archives: February 2014


After listening to several hours of testimony today at the State Capitol, the Idaho House State Affairs Committee voted 11- 3 to approve the bill permitting concealed weapons on the state’s public colleges and universities. Glenn Mosley reports. (3:32)



The bill in question is Senate 1254, which would allow retired law enforcement personnel and individuals with enhanced concealed weapon permits to carry firearms on Idaho’s public college and university campuses. It would forbid guns in residence halls and at large public venues seating more than 1,000 people. The bill has already passed the Idaho State Senate.

The bill’s sponsor is State Senator Curtis McKenzie of Nampa:

Curt McKenzie: “In Idaho, when we wrote our Constitution, we put in a declaration of rights. Article one, section 11 is part of that; I have quoted the language there that is Idaho’s principle with related to the right of the people to keep and bear arms. I think that when we make laws, and we consider what good law is, the Constitution should be our guiding principle. It’s not just the limit of what government can do, but it should also guide the policies that we set within that framework.”

Supporters of the legislation argue that the issues are liberty and public safety: that citizens have the right to bear arms, that citizens have the right to defend and protect themselves, and that citizens should not lose their rights when they step onto a public college campus.

Kelby Monks is a criminal justice major at Boise State University, and he testified in favor of the bill today:

Kelby Monks: “And then also, another issue that people were bringing up was that the police would not be able to identify who the good guy was and the bad guy was and that it would be risky for an individual who stopped a shooter to be mistakenly taken for the shooter. And to that I would say that I would sacrifice myself and that I would rather die and be shot and by a police officer than have an entire auditorium of my classmates killed and murdered.”

Under current policy, the state’s colleges and universities are allowed to regulate guns on their campuses and guns are not allowed on any of the public campuses.

Opponents of the bill included David Duke, police chief in Moscow, home to the University of Idaho:

David Duke: “Our department assigns officers for safety at major entertainment and sporting events. We routinely respond to fights around the Kibbie Dome during these events. Inserting a firearm into this confrontation will lead to injuries or even death to those involved and also to innocent bystanders.”

Idaho State Board of Education member Rod Lewis also spoke forcefully against passage of the bill, asking what the problem was that the legislation was trying to solve. He said the bill is not about concealed carry but open carry. Lewis said the bill as drafted would allow the open carry of firearms. He said permitting open carry of firearms would have a chilling effect on the state’s colleges and universities.

The State Board itself said in a letter to the committee that it believes the bill would allow open carry anywhere on college campuses, including classrooms, dormitories, and event centers. Kevin Satterlee, general counsel for Boise State University, testified that the bill was ambiguous on the issue of open carry.

The bill’s sponsor, Senator McKenzie, says the bill does not reference open carry.

The discussion on open carry and concealed carry, and how the bill might impact each, continued throughout the day’s testimony.

The State Board of Education further argued in the letter to the committee that the bill is an unfunded mandate that could cost the universities up to eight million dollars because they would have to make changes in security training and policies.

The bill now moves on to the full House for further consideration. Should it pass there, it would still need to be signed by Idaho Governor Butch Otter.

I’m Glenn Mosley reporting.

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Idaho’s public colleges and universities are busy trying to determine what the potential financial impacts of the guns-on-campus bill might be. That bill has been approved by the Idaho State Senate and will be heard before House lawmakers this week. Glenn Mosley reports. (2:25)

Much of the debate in Idaho on the legislation which would permit concealed carry on the campuses of the state’s public colleges and universities has so far centered on issues such as Second Amendment rights and public safety.

However, for the impacted campuses, there is also the question of what this might cost. Supporters of the bill say it wouldn’t mean colleges and universities would have to make major changes. The institutions are looking into that. Mark Browning is vice president for community relations and marketing at North Idaho College in Coeur d’Alene:

Mark Browning: “Initial implications at our college put some of those estimations at about $140,000 and going up, to arm security and do some of the training for some of the implications of the bill.”

That is Browning testifying during the recent public hearing on the bill held in the Idaho Senate:

Mark Browning: “We’re in a declining enrollment. We’re down ten percent from last fall and another three percent this spring. That’s about two and a half million dollars for North Idaho College.”

North Idaho College says the figure of around $140,000 is an estimate provided by the Coeur d’ Alene Police Department for the cost to contract one officer.

That cost includes the salary, benefits, car, operating costs for the car, professional development and equipment for the officer for 40 hours a week. That cost would be an annual, ongoing expenditure just for the NIC campus in Coeur D’Alene. There would be additional costs for the college to cover its facilities in Post Falls, Sandpoint, Bonners Ferry, Kellogg and Plummer.

Officials at the University of Idaho and Lewis- Clark State College say they are also studying the issue and don’t have firm estimates at this time. LCSC does say, however, that it might have to expand its weapons storage capability if the bill becomes law. That would be to accommodate students living in residence halls and for other students and staff who would need secure storage for their weapons.  LCSC’s initial estimate of the costs associated with expanded storage is less than $10,000.

The concealed carry bill would allow people to carry weapons on public campuses in Idaho if they are retired law enforcement personnel or if they have an enhanced concealed weapons permit. Concealed weapons would not be allowed in residence halls or at larger public venues such as football stadiums. The bill carries penalties for those caught carrying a firearm while on drugs or intoxicated.

I’m Glenn Mosley reporting.




Guns-on-Campus Bill Moves Forward in Idaho

The campus gun carry legislation before the Idaho State Legislature was moved forward this morning by the Senate State Affairs Committee. A public hearing featured sometimes emotional testimony on both sides of the issue. Glenn Mosley reports. (2:40)

Kimberly McAdams is a psychology professor at Boise State University. She told the committee that she’s in favor of the legislation because her life had been threatened by a former student:

Kimberly McAdams: “For the sake of myself, my students, and my co-workers, please give us the chance to be able to save our own lives if this individual or someone else like him decides to take out his anger on campus. If the only resource I have to save my own life is to exit through the one door that the perpetrator is standing in, I don’t like those odds. Neither myself nor my students are going to be able to escape with our lives.”

McAdams was one of several individuals and organizations testifying in favor of the legislation. Supporters said the issue is safety, that guns are already present on college campuses and that this bill would allow law abiding citizens to protect themselves against harm.

However, those opposed to the bill testified that it would make college campuses less safe. Don Burnett is interim president of the University of Idaho:

Don Burnett: “I am an Idaho native, born in Pocatello. I grew up in Idaho. Firearms and hunting were a way of life in my family. I am a firearms owner. I’ve been a judge and a teacher as well as an academic administrator. My experience and common sense tell me that putting loaded, at the ready, firearms in our classrooms, laboratories and most other campus venues is simply not a good idea.”

The bill was presented to the committee by Dakota Moore of the National Rifle Association. He said that the current state policy leaving the regulation of guns on campus up to the colleges infringes on individual rights:

Dakota Moore: “I believe that this is the best legislation that we could come up with, with regard to this issue. I like it; I think that it accomplishes the very broad goal of allowing individuals, responsible, law- abiding individuals, who have received training, to possess a firearm on campus.”

The bill would allow those with an enhanced concealed weapons permit and retired law enforcement personnel to carry guns on public college campuses in Idaho. There are exceptions in the bill for residence halls and dormitories and for public entertainment venues that seat more than 1,000 people.

The Senate Affairs Committee took testimony for about two and a half hours, getting through about one- third of those who had signed up to testimony. Some members of the committee expressed misgivings about cutting off testimony and moving the bill forward, but the committee voted, with seven Republicans in favor and two Democrats opposed, to send the bill to the Senate floor with a recommendation that it pass.

To become law, the bill will need full approval from the Senate and the House and the signature of Governor Butch Otter.

I’m Glenn Mosley reporting.






Hemingway Festival, Bogart, and “To Have and Have Not”

A Hollywood film classic, 1944’s To Have and Have Not, will be featured at this year’s Hemingway Festival at the University of Idaho. The film stars Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall and was based on a novel by Ernest Hemmingway.

Coincidentally, the film is also being shown this year at the annual Humphrey Bogart Film Festival in Key Largo, Florida, in May. Idaho Public Radio’s Glenn Mosley spoke with Stephen Bogart, son of the film’s iconic stars, about the film and its Hemingway connection.


To Have and Have Not was published in 1937 and was Ernest Hemingway’s first novel since A Farewell to Arm. It’s the story of Harry Morgan, a boat owner who not only takes out fishing parties but runs contraband between Key West and Cuba.

The novel was not especially well-received in 1937; in fact, The New York Times called it “an empty book.” Many even now call it Hemingway’s worst work.

But Hollywood director Howard Hawkes saw a film in it, because of its strong central character. Humphrey Bogart played the part on screen; his co-stars included his future wife, Lauren Bacall, and the rest, as the saying goes, is history:

Stephen Bogart: “In deference to the Hemingway Festival, anything you can work on that was written by Ernest Hemingway gives you a head start right there.”

Stephen Bogart is the son of Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. He launched the Humphrey Bogart Film Festival in Key Largo last year to honor his father. The festival this year, like the Hemingway Festival at the UI, is also screening To Have and Have Not:

Stephen Bogart: “And then you put my father and my mother in it, and they were falling in love and you can see it on the screen, and it was their first movie.”

As more than one film historian and reviewer has pointed over the years, the film owes as much to Bogart’s Casablanca as it does to Hemingway. The film’s plot was changed dramatically from the original. It is the chemistry between Bogart and Bacall which continues to attract film audiences today:

Stephen Bogart: “…the fact that they’re falling love on the screen, and in the movie, in real life, kind of adds to it, it’s just the beginning of a great era in Hollywood.”

Stephen Bogart says he is asked often about his famous father and his enduring legacy:

Stephen Bogart: “It’s the combination of a lot of talent, of a man who was really into the writing, back at the time when writing was so, so important, and worked with great directors, worked with Huston a number of times, and then Michael Curtiz, Nicholas Ray, a lot of great directors, and he’s a wonderfully talented actor and loved his craft.”

While the film was the only time in Humphrey Bogart’s career that he crossed paths on screen with Hemingway, he did star network radio adaptions of both To Have and Have Not and A Farewell to Arms.

To Have and Have Not screens at the Hemingway Festival in Moscow, Idaho on February 11th, and at the Bogart Film Festival in Key Largo, Florida in May.

I’m Glenn Mosley. 



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